11D would've been better out of the box but CXL is very forgiving. Also, as this pair is the kind of a pair of is, this hasn't been in the easiest environments. Velasca is an Italian brand that has become popular (they opened on Chiltern Street recently) as has German brand Shoepassion (which makes in Spain). I'm looking at a cobbler union in a 312 last they recommended 1.5 down from brannock. These Meermin shoes are comfortable, fashionable, trendy, and highly durable. Think Ill grab a pair of black calf Trickers first, then see how I go. My most desired English brand is C&J. I dont think theyre very different, but no I cant compare directly, as I dont own GC RTW. Carmina shoes are made with premium materials that are much superior to materials used for making Meermin shoes. Im afraid Im not great on recommending sizing issues like that. Cnes also has great hand-welted shoes too, about 350 I believe, which look a lot more expensive.. I have really been liking many of your posts for this season. I can fully close the lacing most of the way up for an ideal look. In durability? However without the insert there's too much volume so now I'm shopping for a 3/4 insert to toss in them. Most brands provide one width per shoe/last, which in the end really limits your ability to find the right fit (not to mention, to find the right fit for the shoe you actually want to buy). I know last shape and design are the most obvious differences. Im happy to pay a bit more for that consistency and service. Old Edlyn is equivalent to a 41.5, * **Winson Qilin** EU42 fantastic fit all round, * **Winson Stark** EU42 Great fit on an engineer, instep is high enough to slip and and off and there is only a bit of heel slip due to the shaped heel. Im not the only one. Thank you for this listing Simon. Ive found one Cheaney last with a wide toe box that works for me by sizing down so that the heel fits but very little success with other makers. Myrqvist shoes are dreadful. Wide midfoot, but a touch low instep which translates to average volume, just squashed a bit down. Is higher volume though. **The older 2040s are tighter, because of the older style of heel pad, if you find it too tight I recommend considering swapping out the heel pads. "But at the same time, I do think you get better value now for a 200 shoe than you did 10 years ago, despite inflation, because theres so much more competition. The alternative is leather board read the rest of the article and youll see it. Meermin shoes are classy shoes that are just so unbelievably functional and cost-effective for the price that they come for. Red Wing 23 9D: decent fit. In general, I think this breakdown demonstrates that you still largely get what you pay for with shoes. I have a pair of black calf oxfords from Morjas and the leather feels rather cheap: it looks like patent leather, only matte not shiny. Velasca uses a Blake/Rapid construction, so not Goodyear welted - but remember Blake/Rapid is more similar to Goodyear than it is to normal Blake. Of course second pairs usually come out better, and know there can be customers nagging on very small things, but certainly doesnt sound like it in your case. Predictably, this European company uses European sizing, which is normally a full size down from your Brannock (or "true") size. Pepe Albaladejo runs Meermin with his father Jose, who founded the company in 2001 by selling through the legendary shoe mecca that is Tokyo's Isetan department store. At C&Js benchgrade level, you can choose from black or chestnut calf (both with a leather sole), or brown suede with a rubber sole and youre limited to their 348 last. Maybe I experimented with them too early. Boot socks. But in the same moment, I realised this was unfair. So do only the toes get more room or is the hole shoe more roomier? Viberg 2040 8.5: No variable widths for this last. if youre going to write mean spirited attacks on someone you shouldnt be surprised that they defend themselves and reply in kind Either as a good value buy for one who is unwilling or unable spend more, or, as a gateway purchase into the world of fine mens shoes. Additional notes: Heel-to-toe is 10, width on the border of D/E; heel-to-ball is 11. 3. 6.5D Carmina: 5.5: UK: Forest, Robert - 5.5UK: 6.5D Carmina Forest: 5.5: UK: 5.5UK with a smidge of heel slip: Out of the two shoe brands, however, Carmina shoes come forth as the best shoes in this discourse. Steve. Their prices and quality is a good balance. Carmina is the best of the Mallorca-based shoemakers (which includes Meermin and TLB Mallorca), but is more expensive than either Meermin or Spier & Mackay by about double. The difference between, for example, C&J and EG is the same as the difference between them and the cheaper shoes. I have found Robert (admittedly in sales, not specifically costumer service) to be accommodating in every respect; answering scores of questions over a months long decision making process. Also I feel the toe space is a bit too narrow. I can only speak for Cheaney, but the staff were very helpful and there was a good range when I visited around 7 months ago. Initially I tried 9E because many people recommend 1/2 size down and 1 width up for this last. The sort of thing that Septieme Largeur really excel in . Similar wide heel to the 1035. Have been on a Brannock only once. Still pretty good value (it is the company I originally used before I could afford better) but not nearly as good as it was some time ago. The price range for Meermin loafers is $165 for women and $175 for men. My C&J 337 is a bit loose in 10UK but too tight in 9.5UK; my Carmina Simpson Oxford is comfortably snug in 10UK (which is how I like my shoes to fit.) In my experience, AE is not second to the former neither in leather quality nor make, and features more comfortable footbeds (especially vs Carmina), only it is not as sleek. Off sale they come in at about 380 per pair (sale price 225) and they have a great re-furb service where for 80, theyll send them back to you as good as new. in fact my favourite leather is meermin museum calf, while meermin llama I dont really like, and I wouldnt touch their black box calf with a 10 pole. The shoes have a slim bevelled waist (stitched all the way to the heel), a close-cut heel and a leather heel stiffener. Carmina Shoes - Definitive Thread (reviews, advice, sizing, etc) - official thread. I dont think either has changed in their quality, no. Can add that you can find a review of Carlos Santos here on Shoegazing: https://shoegazing.com/2015/09/06/review-carlos-santos-7201-braga-cognac/. Carmina shoes come with better finishing than the Meermin shoes. Based on reviews, Im hopeful. Will post more fit notes when they arrive. Red Wing 8 last 9D: Decent fit at first, fairly comfortable once broken in. I have gone through years of posts comments where US readers often praised the company and you alleged unawareness about it, sometimes citing Alden as the only US quality shoemaker known to you. My right foot always had some heel slip even with the laces pulled very tight and a tongue pad. There is decent toe room in spite of how tapered the chisel last looks. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, This is an example of what a good comment looks like. Our featured affiliate vendor of the week is a brand new affiliate vendor, the artisan Bespoke Shoemaker Szuba. Tried an 8.5E on a 2014 manufactured pair and its better than the modern ones, but the taper is a bit more aggressive so I'd prefer a 9 in much older or "OG" 2030. Spoo coming through with a great thread. CARMINA belvtor.by - CARMINA 100% 10016 U www.clinicarinologica.com - 6.5 CARMINA ecovitaconstrutora.com.br 17,500 . I would also include Lof & Tung on this list its Skoaktiebolagets house brand (though I havent seen any in person), and their customer service is excellent too. May have been fine with thinner socks. Feels okay but gets painful in the midfoot as the day progresses. Vans Old Skool/Era: 11D, solid out of the box. Id love to step up to Crocketts as Ive heard great things. Id put them at around Barker/Loake territory, perhaps slightly better. Note: I have pretty weird feet, slim waist, slim heels, slightly high instep, and low volume. 210 last 9.5D: Bad fit. Carmina Inca Chukka - 10 UK. Do you not think theres some advantage to dealing directly with the maker, and perhaps an understandable desire from the maker to control some more of the customer experience? I guess what I am saying is that depending on where youre, the good value for under certain dollar amount list will really change for you. Theyre the only pair from this collection that I got out of the box and went wow. Additionally the soles of Cheaney arent as hard wearing either, I have needed more frequent resoles. Yeah, Luca Rubinacci apparently also has a cooperation with them, which frankly I dont understand, Just for info, Velasca in Italy does have a selection of shoes that are Goodyear welted:https://it.velasca.com/collections/francesine-goodyear In particular, if you're interested in this price bracket, check out, https://shoegazing.com/2016/08/12/review-crownhill-shoes-the-stewart/, https://shoegazing.com/2015/09/06/review-carlos-santos-7201-braga-cognac/, https://www.afinepairofshoes.co.uk/products/berwick-1707-penny-loafer-9628-dark-brown-suede?variant=19309209288766&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5ZCblaOs6gIVdBPTCh32aAttEAEYASABEgKcGvD_BwE, https://www.carminashoemaker.com/penny-loafers-brown-suede-80113, https://britishshoecompany.co.uk/collections/berwick-1707/products/berwick-mens-derby-leather-lace-up-shoes-5768-k6, https://it.velasca.com/collections/francesine-goodyear. Parkhurst 602 Last 9D: Fit well off the bat, little to no break-in. and a pair of natural CXL beefrolls were very loose I could slide right out of them. I think that chukka looks nice. The fact is that Cheaney have one flagship store and the vast bulk of their business is on line whilst JL are paying for expensive locations and staff explains all at the end of the day its not so complicated. However, they are less fashionable than Carmina shoes because of the quality of their finishing. Also Barkers at the 1880 price point are made in the UK. Santoni I have experienced, and I would say the same. Please use the following format to facilitate readability and searchability: This is an example of what a good comment looks like. Heel to ball fits much like Barrie 9.5D, with a tiny bit more volume, but toe box tapers more sharply from both sides. Jesper's information was based on information by two Carmina retailers. More disclosure is called for before putting a disclaimer on others situation. Common Projects Achilles and Bball: 43 are some of my best fitting shoes, especially the Bballs that have a little more toe room. They both have a very knowledgeable blog dedicated to shoes. Finally, this last is fairly conservative, with less sleek lines than the C&J, Carmina, Weston, etc. The problem with the Japanese brands is theyre rarely available outside the country. The leather feels like a glove and is truly unlined (to the extent that the uppers almost collapse under their own weight), unlike Carminas unlined shoes which dont feel all that different from normal lined shoes. Jespers site is shoegazing.com. Doc Martens or Loake 1880 for Chelsea boots ? You are using an out of date browser. G. F. G. . I own a pair of JL Lopez loafers (995) and a pair of Cheaney Lewisham (380) and with the exception of the fact that JL claim a hand stitched apron, I cant see any qualitative difference whatsoever. I like my shoes with a long point extra shiny..low like Aldos Sure David. Its the same width as the 8.5E, but just a smidge longer and is perfect. JavaScript is disabled. He knows the market back to front and is a lovely gent. If I could make a bespoke last from these shoes I would. Great stitch density and overall construction for a GYW loafer that normally runs 160 euros. I have 3 pairs of meermin and they are not hard to break in (aside from heel). Carmina shoes are more fashionable and elegant than the Meermin shoes. They also have choices of colours for those who want to make their outfit pop, with bright and lively colours including red, green, and bright blue. The stitching on the soles is also less dense, though the soles do have some nice detailing like shaped waists and channeled soles, as you mentioned. There is no question that the 2 pairs of EGs I have are simply fantastic and of higher quality that CJ and Carmina. Ive been a big fan of Crockett & Jones, Carmina and Edward Green. Churchs is particularly egregious in this respect, given the quality (though, sometimes to my regret, their 173 last fits me like a glove in a UK 12E). For the brands mentioned in this article, everyone uses split suedes, except Carmina and TLB Mallorca (C&J mainly have splits for Benchgrade, while they use reverse calf for Handgrade). I have had a painted patina on several shoes see Berluti here, Dandy here, Carreducker here and G&G here. The quality difference was like night and day and Id have no hesitation recommending the Loake 1880s as a good budget shoe. 9.5D heel to ball, just a smidge under 9.5D on heel to toe. To be clear, I dont know what they use. Too tight in the vamp and mid-foot. Customers get a lot of value from buying Carmina shoes because these fashionable shoes are really sturdy, durable, and long-lasting in the long run. Grant Stone Leo 9D: Great fit all around. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. This is the next level down of Spanish brands, more on a par with the Swedish start-ups in terms of quality, but much bigger organisations. Interesting to hear you sized up for Simpson when based on your description above you Could probably have stayed on an 8. NEW Allen Edmonds Leeds 9591 8.5 E Shell Cordovan Color 8 PTB Blucher USA. Good plan. I ultimately gave up on mine. Perhaps other readers can. I must admit, my original motivations were more around my budget limitations, but I think I am also strangely more attached to them having visited the factory (the same site since their manufacturing started in the late 19th century) and learnt about their provenance. Meermin US UK Narrow. One thing I could never understand is why, from lower to higher price points, RTW makers dont provide more width options. Theres so many men who more or less only buy bespoke tailoring, and who can spend enormous amount of money on watches etc. Meermins can be bought at prices between $160 and $210 in the online and offline marketplaces today. I have only handled and tried on two pairs (a wholecut on the Rain last and an unlined loafer) but my impressions are fairly consistent. Thin socks preferred due to somewhat narrow toe box. Hi Jesper, thanks for the clarification. Id also echo other comments that a trip to the factory outlet shops in Northampton is well worth it. Ive read PS with some interest over the last year or so, and have enjoyed learning how to dress properly. Overall - and this all has to be generalisation - with English shoes you get a solid make and good quality control. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Not a big difference though. It hails from Meermin's Classic Collection, which is the less expensive of the two lines, at 160euro/pair (or roughly $205). Just make sure Trickers does not end up too chunky for you. Jason: Thats a real shame. In addition they come in some very handsome styles. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Its a good time to be a consumer in this area.. * **Viberg 2030** 8 snug but not too tight, * **Viberg 2030** 8.5 a bit loose in the heel in CXL, comfortable when laced tightly all the way up, * **Winson OLD Edlyn** EU41 sized on advice of Emil via foot measurements, a touch short. So lets see. Renav Goods Co A-1 Unstructured 42: Good fit for summer, but maxes out at Chup sock thickness. **Notes about feet:** Left foot pretty much bang on 9D, right foot maybe 9.25D. Bespoke obviously solves this but I dont care enough about the other elements you get and pay for with bespoke, or perhaps I just think 2k+ is too much and I suspect (hope?) Buy Meermin shoes today because of how affordable they are. Carminas actually have better fits than Meermin shoes. Check the Noble Shoe eshop for several decent ones. Im keeping an eye open for Skomaker Dagestad Yamagata make-ups in the future. Toe box is comfortable but not a lot of play, heel is well locked in. Very snug toe box, foot extends past footbed on sides; too much vertical space even with tongue pad, resulting in lots of heel slip and overlapping facings. It takes days to sift through the carmina thread to even know relatively what size to buy. If I have fit issues, it is usually due to rubbing on superolateral aspect of the right 5th toe. Viberg 2020 8.5 Stitchdown: Pretty snug, cannot wear boot socks in. If one do good research ahead of placing an order (not just go by brand names and heritage, doesnt work anymore in the bespoke shoe world), choose a brand that suits ones style and preferences for shoes, the chance youll get your best shoes ever are very high. Normal arch/instep. Very nice article. Finally and most importantly, find a last that truly fits your feet. They have a lot of life left in them. I just had the opportunity to try on some Carminas in store. For When weve returned to normal I might need a trip to Spain to try on a selection from Carmina, Meermin and the other brands suggested in this article. Alden Van: 10D - Good fit. Sendra is a factory that makes for a lot of cheaper start-ups, because theyre so flexible and have no minimums. Meermin (above) has also become big, mostly in the US. Great advice Edric, thanks for helping Oliver. regards judging quality by calf not suede? Most shoes that say theyre made in the Almansa area of Spain are made by Sendra.. Some can only be purchased at high upcharge compared to what they cost in Europe, while some can be bought from European retailers with free shipping, VAT deducted and no customs charge (as long as below $800) so they come out 15-20% cheaper than they cost in Europe. https://eu.jmweston.com/en/collections/bottines-homme/products/edouard-chukka-boot-homme-cuir-veau-velours-marron-fonce, Thats certainly a risk with some French brands, but not usually with Weston. Any other top level comments will be deleted. Thanks EL. In my view, any proper maker would redo a pair coming out like that. ), but perhaps that wouldnt be entirely appropriate. So my true size is an 11.5, in most American boots I'm an 11, and all my boots with European sizing (like Tricker's) are a 10.5. Good point about Allen Edmonds. With Carmina you can get a more refined shoe - closed-channel stitching, a more bevelled waist and so on. My personal thoughts are as follows: Loake As the article suggests, the Loake 1880 is the bare minimum you should go for. Im surprised not to see JFitzpatrick in the Spain list. You get slightly better quality with Carmina at a cheaper price. I got tired of my usual worn brands price development and wanted to see if it is possible to find decent shoes under 300 Euros, which in my eyes is in no way cheap. This is more important for those that dont find heels fit them well, generally. Interesting times and personal style journey. Some of the shoes on sale are factory seconds and its not something they outrightly advertise. The Brannock size (heel-to-toe) will be the top parent comment. I think either would be fine. I think one point that was briefly touched on but very important is that the different brands price point will be really different depending where you are. Merrell Vapor Glove: 10D, no issues since there's barely any structure. 5. A nice watch is also showing something. Decent fit all around and should break in nicely. As someone with narrow feet, and unable to afford bespoke, this is a major bugbear of mine. Foot extends past footbed on sides. Although Meermins have great shoe soles, the truth is that Carminas are just much better.MEERMIN SHOE SOLES. Low arches but not flat. The big differentiating factor is not business model, but location of manufacture. Switching to thin socks gives a very relaxed fit. This is more than just the upper, but depending on the build, the leather insole will mold and compress to the foot. European lasts just dont fit well as they have heels that are way too big. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. C&J have been my staple for more than 20 years, and I find that their 348 and 341 last feel like old friend straight our of the box. In that regard, let me plug TLB as a particularly sound value proposition. Particularly annoying is when they talk about cutting out a middle man, and going straight to consumer. Rancourt 113 loafer: men's size 6D is pretty good Meermin Hiro derby: men's UK 4.5 wearable but the heel is . Jesper concludes by saying: You cant expect to get a really premium shoe for an entry-level price, and you shouldnt get too excited at places that promise that. I live in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam so I know these companies. The heel stiffener is a piece of the internal structure of the shoe, which sits inside the heel cup. At Styleforum, youll find rousing discussions that go beyond strings of emojis. I think shoegazing is largely irrelevant since the information it provides can be gathered more reliably elsewhere. I feel much less tired in my feet after a long day, and if one have a bit problematic feet it will be an even bigger difference.. Great article I wonder what you think of the dilemma I currently find myself in?.. Made in Spain. They initially repaired free of charge and when the heels came loose again they replaced for a shoe from their 1880 range. Personally, I like their lasts quite a bit. Back to Morjas specifically. To take an example, say youre in the market for an adelaide. If your size in a Viberg last is a bit snug I would consider sizing up for GYW. Even for me and I have narrower feet than the average man. Cheaper shoes will often have small mistakes, such as little splits in the sole or heel stack. ??? Cork/insole filling will also compress. Carmina shoes are really great shoes that help you to take your style to a whole new level. In the end I find both brands run small and you rather need half a size or for Bobbies an entire size larger than what you would have with Santoni for example. Alexander 9E/9.5D: Excellent fit when worn sockless. Do you like the mor traditional English or contemporary French style more? You found 1 size in that last worked for you though? No worries at all, its much appreciated. Slightly low instep and volume. Allen Edmonds Sizing to Carmina & Meermin Those that have Allen Edmonds and carmina or meermins, what size do you wear in AE compared to the others? Not only the uppers are nicer, but the full calf liners are a joy when you put them on and you walk even a bit. Too tight in the vamp and mid-foot. The toe length isn't excessive either. Here the belittling is by Jesper, but somehow feels like follow-through of the same swing. Ive a pair of Barker Grant that I must have worn 50/60/70 times and its only last week I had a topy (SVIG rubber) put on, the cobbler reckoned the rubber on the heel hadnt worn enough to warrant replacement. Will they last much longer? Would you have any insight into the quality of the GC ready to wear versus C&J handgrade please? And nice finishing and detailing as you mentioned. Ive purchased a few Grenson pieces this year. The Shell Cordovan, non-Alden Shoe and Boot Thread, Find reviews, recommendations, tips about and appreciation of fine cutlery here. Arch support is nowhere near the 55 last but feels much more substantial than any other maker listed. Chunky, comfortable, and with nice make but the suede itself is nothing special, certainly worse than Crownhill in the same price range. These are two of the best known shoe brands internationally, with Crocketts a British mainstay and Carmina (above) coming to prominence in the past 10 years. It could be far more expensive than the cost of a single pair if theyre so much more comfortable as they are for you as it would make it harder to wear the shoes are own currently. Click Here to join Styleforum's thousands of style enthusiasts today! Exactly!! This was several years ago, so my recollection isnt as detailed. I have a review of a pair of them here on Shoegazing: https://shoegazing.com/2016/08/12/review-crownhill-shoes-the-stewart/. Some heel slip until broken in. Ive undergone a career change and offices in the US have become more and more lax about dress standards, even prior to 2020. Its Spier and Mackay not Spier McKay. 8.5D may have worked with thinner socks. Yanko 915 3 eyelet derby 9.5UK: Probably more form fitting and snug than tlb or carmina (probably due to sizing down) but near perfect in shape. Similar articles on suits, jackets, shirts etc are desperately needed. And of course I could be wrong, but still believe theres something behind it. To me, they have been 100% worth the money. Asics GT2000: 11 - Perfect fit. Trickers town shoes, especially the wonderful Belgrave adelaide, top any C&J shoe I have in terms of comfort and build. In the long run you will always regret buying a pair that ticks all the boxes, but doesnt have a good fit. Spain level 2: Berwick, Sendra and Meermin. I dont know anybody who owns a Mont Blanc wallet, but I know plenty of people who own Mont Blanc pens, and I dont see that ever changing. HIRO 9: Terrible fit. Easily the best of the budget shoes and whilst they dont match Crockett and Jones, they are not a million miles away. Simon as always your articles are informative and an education. Ive never understood why they tried to branch out so much. HOK 9: Acceptable fit. I cant comment as to what anything is like higher up the scale but they are both the best looking and most comfortable shoes I own (more than my hiking boots or running shoes). The other thing about Carmina is they have increased prices and reduced quality in some areas in recent years. Vanity may well be part of the explanation, its hard to say. Id like to add a little comment on the Vietnam shoe makers here. Own a pair of derby shoes in the last now. Overall, Meermins are not as good as Carminas because the Meermin shoes seem to be poorly finished when they are compared to the Carminas. Carmina Rain: UK 11 (best fitting Carmina last for me) Carmina Inca: UK 11 (too tight across instep) Carmina Forest: UK 11.5 (snug instep) Carmina Simpson: my feet are too wide for this last. Never felt loose. A bespoke suit certainly flatters the owner, makes them look good. He was also involved in the development of the TLB Artista range, so there is a financial relationship with all of those brands. Make a mark at the front of your longest toe. Seemed comfortable at first but the more I wore it, the more I realized it just doesn't work for me. But you might want to chat with Carmina first to double-check. Of course choice is more limited, and its more pot luck, but who doesnt love a bargain? The Shell Cordovan, non-Alden Shoe and Boot Thread, Find reviews, recommendations, tips about and appreciation of fine cutlery here. 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