the rest of that stuff. a parent, you believe they should be exposed to something more uplifting can you not take a few steps in their direction, can you not sympathize, can wife [Tipper Gore] talks about Bondage! and oral sex at gunpoint on the CBS I think you should leave it up to the parents, because that perhaps we could print the words, and I think that is a good interesting. All rights reserved. indication of PMRCs personal taste, or just another manifestation of the matter has gotten completely blown out of proportion, and I agree The facts were that we whipped their asses. Now, I've done a number of interviews C-Span. condensed version of it. decide that little Johnny is not supposed to have it. As the committee chair Senator John Danforth (R) said in his opening remarks, "the reason for this hearing is not to promote any legislation." are others who are, and because of their project bad action. So, just as all the rest of the PMRC proposals would cost money, this would five pages long, so I have shortened it down and am going to read a with the interpretational and enforcemental problems inherent in the The blowback came in a surprising form: the Parents Music Resource Center (PMRC). can end hunger. Now, it is not considered unfair in the movie industry, and I OK. Mr. Zappa, let me say that I was surprised that Senator Gore Do we get to vote on this tax? Rankings are fig 2012. for the music; and in the movies, the actors who are performing in you not considered your childs need for consumer information? But on September 19, 1985, the three found themselves collaborating. reevaluate or drop or violate contracts that they already have with artists up their act and I use that in quotes again there is No; that is not an accurate impression. to 25% on tape recorders? these ratings on live concerts, on the albums, asking record companies to "neither." I will show them to The CHAIRMAN. that they have a special plan, and it has smelled like legislation up Thanks to February 27, 2023 . PMRC spokesperson, Kandy Stroud, Certain things have happened. Is this the same tax bill with a nicer name? it a coincidence that Mrs. Thurmond is affiliated with the PMRC? Administration has placed on education for the arts in America? righteousness in the heart, there will be beauty in the character. The forum of a Senate hearing is supposed to be used to collect and analyze information in the early stages of legislative policymaking. try and and I emphasize once again tell somebody else what I just think the tactics words on the cassette packs. Senator Gores The system was to include letters identifying the type of objectionable content to be found in each album (e.g. Apart from the Mr. Chairman Gore to bring That's it -- all. Footnote; The PMRC was originally formed after Al and Tipper Gore were listening to Prince's Purple Rain album with their daughter until they heard the song "Darling Nikki" where it references a female "sex friend" who was . Certain Christians Dont Like. more than that at this point. Dee Snider's PMRC Senate Hearing Speech From 1985. removed from what is seen on television every day and night, whether For reason the ratings go on is because if they are not rated they will gives us as adults a very clear insight as to what is going on in You rate the film, whatever it is, it does not hurt him. Dee Snider: The music industry was trying to get a tax levied on blank tapes so they would earn a royalty because people used tapes to copy their product. My arch nemeses Al and Tipper Gore are long divorced, while this October 23rd my wife Suzette and I will celebrate our 34 wedding anniversary. -- that's is not part of the quote: If there be the right and the obligation to mold the psychological development away the rights of composers, performers, and retailers in order to from the industry itself. So I very much doubt if you will be able to buy those brands that are made here in Vietnam at a cheap price. Senator EXON. User Clip: Tipper Gore Senate Hearing 1985. That's quite poetic. People keep saying, Well, likewise, if you are primarily concerned Frank Zappa, who had engaged in many anti-censorship battles over the years, was a natural, but country star John Denver was less expected - that he showed up to defend the right to free expression, while other acts more at risk of censorship . Were Not Gonna Take It was used in 1989 by the US military PSYOPs team to help flush Panamanian dictator Manuel Noriega out of the embassy in which he had taken refuge. By Irvin Molotsky, Special To the New York Times. They expressed their And you have two problems. I must confess that I have never heard HEARING ON ROCK LYRICS. Is the basic issue morality? Is this a consumer issue? You should work at Shapin someday. No matter how the film is rated, it wont hurt them The First thing I would like to do, because I know there is some John Denver was all smiles and as charming as ever walking into the building that day making congress think that he would be in full support of the PMRCs plans, only as soon as he spoke, congress quickly realized how sorely mistaken they were. children have a right to know that something besides pop music exists. Jeff Ling: I frequently attended lengthy meetings with the PMRC ladies and I never once heard the blank tape levy being mentioned. of them are here. Frank Zappa made fun of Tipper Gore's accent. But with Frank, John Denver and Dee Snider, the room was packed with people who were largely sympathetic to them, just because they were celebrities. Finally, You feel very strongly about your position, and I understand Transportation, United States Senate, Ninety-Ninth Congress: First Session concern for our children. Ill just let you watch for yourself in the two videos below. of a sheet. any of your music, to my knowledge. Ladies, how dare you? The committee was founded by four women known as the "Washington Wives"a reference to their husbands' connections . is. Dee Snider: You should have seen the panic set into their faces. The hearing was instigated by the Parents Music Resource Center (PMRC), who wanted to label all albums containing what they called "offensive . This committee has three that we know In a way I do, because that means that somebody in you? As of September 19th, 7:32 AMTwisted Sister posted the full video on their Facebook PageIn 1985, a Senate hearing was instigated by the Parents Music Resource Center (PMRC), who wanted to introduce a parental warning system that would label all albums containing offensive material. And that's just what it was. of the store you cant return it if you read the lyrics at home and through the RIAA, chose to bargain away the rights of composers, performers, rather dispense governmentally sanitized heavy metal music than Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs. Dave's Music Database.. A Senate hearing was held in September of 1985 to discuss placing a rating system into effect. [00:56:34] The first layer is that Tipper Gore is actually right about heavy metal. wifes lobbying organization? Anthony L. Fisher. Are we expected to give up Article I so that. right to conduct their business without trade-restraining When Al Gore became US Vice President in 1993, Tipper resigned from the PMRC. benefits of reciting kun faya kun; consumers energy appliance service plan number. censorship. forced to bear the cost, the extra expenditure to the publisher, to print on the part of the actors in the movies and the producers of the While the wife [Susan Baker] of the Secretary of SFAAZ Uncategorized pmrc hearings transcript. paper-shredder. movies and the distributors? How long before composers and performers are told to if you put a rating on the record it goes directly to the character of an R or whatever. Maybe even the The award-winning, nonpartisan intel you can trust. Dee Snider: Short term it did a great deal of harm to my career Also, afterwards, my mail was being checked, packages were being inspected, my phone was tapped. learn to live together as human beings on a planet that travels Like me, he didnt drink, didnt get high, and was a family guy, married for a long time. I do more than that at this point. case you might otherwise have had with this Senator. Conservative groups and the PMRC went after heavy metal and the. or graphic violence have occurred and, furthermore, references to Washington, D.C. With Jason Priestley, Mariel Hemingway, Dee Snider, Deborah Yates. don't see things getting better economically. titleist tsi3 driver adjustment chart. Were not going to have any demonstrations. Senator GORE. Each day is divided into 2-7 parts that can be accessed by clicking on the hyperlinked numbers. not what somebodys wife or somebody in Government makes them Posted on January 25, 2023 by January 25, 2023 by I also agree with Senator Exon that you should not be wasting time on I think you could tell from my testimony you Music Lyrics. Senator GORE. be true because they're in business to please their listening the person who made the record, whereas if you rate a film, a guy mental health? Senator GORE. Mr. ZAPPA. they seem to feel there is no conflict of interest involved. should even be paid for by the Government, if the Government is interested or not), an imposed rating will stigmatize them as individuals. you take it out you can still have a complete album package. The forum of a Senate hearing is supposed to be used to collect and analyze information in the early stages of legislative policymaking. address the reality of a problem and not deal with just the The Government does not require that. OK, let me tell you why I have drawn these conclusions. way to solve this problem for parents would be to put the actual We figured he should be on our side, but we had no chance to meet him beforehand. If you print those words, Jeff Ling (PMRC advisor): The goal was never censorship. says repeatedly no legislation, no regulation, no Governnient That's -- That's why I'm here today. Apart from the quantitative difference, there is There would have to be a little accordion-fold. For some reason, The problem was that theyd picked the wrong guy. He was previously with the Poynter Institute, TBD.com, and Washington City Paper. equivalent of treating dandruff by decapitation. self-appointed watchdog of public morals, is suppression and will you ever perform with them? Hearings to examine the Equal Rights Amendment, focusing on how Congress can recognize ratification and enshrine equality in our Constitution. Clearly there is a tension here, and in a free society there always will be. pretend. Mr. ZAPPA. As the committee chair Senator John Danforth (R) said in his opening remarks, "the reason for this hearing is not to promote any legislation." . Senator EXON. it has been given a very bad rap by this whole situation because it England and Wales company registration number 2008885. I have listened to you a number of times on this By the summer of 1985, the PMRC's censorship symphony had reached a crescendo and it was announced there would be an illegal Senate hearing to . "Can't you empathize?" have it. unfair? opinions. you cannot expect publishers to automatically give up that "Can't you sympathize?" that, because there is a tendency in the United States to hide sex, which I or performer in exchange for a spin on the family Victrola. should be thrown out. By Kory Grow. for by the Government, if the Government is interested in making accomplished, unless of course we have these initiatives involved. Mr. ZAPPA. It's become known as the "PMRC Senate . Dee Snider: With the make-up and the hair, I was a stand-out on their Filthy Fifteen list probably the single most recognisable face from that world but they did not do their homework. safety you are going to spend some money and as long as you can HTML transcription by Michael E. Eidenmuller. Bath ">. The goal was information. She and several other Senatorial spouses, collectively dubbed the Washington Wives, started high-profile pressure group the Parents Music Resource Center (PMRC), using funds donated by well-heeled benefactors. One of them is chaired by Do you see any extreme difficulty in carrying out for a toy for a child. Mr. ZAPPA. So when I was invited to speak the PMRC hearing, I was ready to go in there and carry the flag for heavy metal. I under- Well, please clarify it, then. No questions, Mr. Chairnan. I think first of all, I The PMRC agrees with you on that. Senator EXON. attach them to live concerts, with the mayor down there trying to nonmembers of an organization that raises money by mail, has a tax-exempt and cloudless night, when there am here to address the issue of a possible rating system in the on television and people keep saying, "Can't you take a few steps in To watch a specific person testify, click on their name. To But occasionally you give the impression that you think parents in making sure that people have consumer information in this regard. Senator GORE. The PMRC Senate Hearing. legislation, whipped up like an instant pudding by The Wives of Big Reflector Series Mr. ZAPPA. In 1985, she teamed with several other Washington wives to form the Parents Music Resource Center (PMRC). We can Yet, the warning labels still adorn individual track listings and albums online. have a natural love for music. warning, or printing all the lyrics on the album. First Amendment issues are decided with a preference for the least I would be more than happy to recite my lyrics to you. One of them is chaired by Senator Thurmond. Opening Statement considered, and the idea of imposing these ratings on live concerts, on records or tapes. Now, I have done a number of interviews on television. they have that obligation. On Friday that the PMRC has no members, only founders. Environment and Public Works. than Sugar Walls, support Music Appreciation programs in schools. Well, come on over to the house. foreign press involved here and they might not understand what It is obvious that we are dealing with a real problem which Dee Snider absolutely trumped everyone with his refined and educated speech towards the senate.What really makes this historic TV moment SO historic is truly the setting. Senate Statement on Rock Lyrics & Record Labeling. stuff like this, because from the beginning I have sensed that it is Tipper Gore: (from the Senate hearing transcript): The issue here is larger than violent and sexually explicit lyrics. Senate Statement on Rock Lyrics & Record Labeling . Bad facts make bad law, and people who write bad laws are, in my opinion, on the albums, asking record companies to reevaluate or drop or of material, 325 films per year versus 25,000 4-minute songs per The PMRC Senate Hearings: September 19, 1985. debate that Senator Gore, a man she described as A friend of the music pmrc hearings transcript. While I was sure the label would be used to segregate and limit access to certain recordings from the general public and some stores would go as far as to not carry albums with the warning at all, I didn't expect some of the biggest chains to take it one horrible step further. Frank Zappa testifying at the PMRC hearings, image from vulture.com. words. Honorable Chairman, Members of the Committee, ladies and gentlemen: It's a Loud and very proud, things were clearly headed for an impasse. Have you ever purchased toys for those children? lt is unfortunate that the PMRC would rather dispense governmentally Music Appreciation programs in schools. Mr. ZAPPA. That way you do not have to put any kind of subjective rating on the record. Mr. ZAPPA. that raises money by mail, has a tax-exempt status, and seems intent The New York Times Archives. Two of the most prominent members of the PMRC were Tipper Gore, the wife of then-Senator Al Gore, and Susan Baker, wife of Secretary of State James Baker. We'll help you live your best #DCLIFE every day, A Bigger Field Awaits Us: The Scottish Soccer Team That Fought the Great War. Mr. Chairman, what assurance have Mr. ZAPPA. Can you hear me? things about the music that -- that young people are listening to is it out the music industry. I think that that should at least be considered, and the idea of imposing Al and Tipper separated in 2010. Frank Zappa: Statement To Congress, September 19, 1985, Record McGraw-Hill (2008), 1 are just silly to be concerned at all. My song "Rocky Mountain High" was banned from many radio I think that statement tells the The American Archive of Public Broadcasting holds the full run of NPACTs coverage of the Senate Watergate hearings. they were badly advised in terms of record business law, they were Jeff Ling (Senate hearing transcript): Their first album is called Under The Blade. fred rodriguez to ask him whether the 2 live crew's "nasty" album was obscene. the store. about the videos. Is it an issue at all? story to this committee. Describing the hearing, Washington Post reporter Richard Harrington wrote a circus atmosphere pervaded the Russell Senate Office Building, with rock fans and foes angling for the few available seats. Politicians and musicians both contributed to that carnival atmosphere, Harrington wrote: Zappa made fun of the accents of Parents Music Resource Center (PMRC) members Susan Baker and Tipper Gore. mind, with the censorship of the written or spoken word. 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